DataONE:meeting notes:18 June 2010 email

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Subject:[data_citation] ecologists and data sets

3 messages Cook, Robert B. <> Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 11:32 AM To: "" <> All,

I enjoyed reading the blog...nicely done.

One of the notes on stream ecologists and data sets caught my eye.

Our biggest challenge at the ORNL DAAC for Biogeochemical Dynamics is getting our data providers (largely field ecologists) to provide well documented and organized data products.

We have developed a set of Best Practices that describe what we mean"preparing an ecological data set to share":

This summer at the Ecological Society of America meeting we're holding a training workshop on this topic:

Please note that there have been some successful data sets produced by ecologists and even stream ecologists. Check out the data found within the search catalog: for example (apologies for the ugly URL):

Your info. Bob

==Valerie Reply==_______________________________________________ data_citation mailing list Valerie Enriquez <> Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 11:36 AM To: "Cook, Robert B." <> Cc: "" <> Hi Bob,

Thanks for your positive feedback on the blog. Also, thanks for the links to ORNL's best practices. I just started looking at articles citing ORNL data (thanks to your spreadsheet) and this will help inform what I will be looking for and find whether or not researchers are adhering to these practices when reusing data.

Thanks again,

Valerie [Quoted text hidden]

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Sarah Walker Judson <> Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 11:46 AM To: "Cook, Robert B." <> Cc: "" <> Thanks for the links!

I wrote that post b/c I was surprised at the general lack of awareness among my peers that they could and should publish their datasets. It should be noted though, that there is an increasing trend of having an online database for your data. The project I just came off of did this (I built it), but it's admittedly obscure (plus we're having trouble with web hosting) and I doubt that many people would happen upon it and even if they did, I doubt they would actually be able to use the data b/c of my coworkers concerns about data sharing/protection. But, posting such a database seems to allow the group of researchers I work with to wipe their hands clean and say they made their data available as encouraged by NSF. That seemed to be the general experience I had last week with my peers, many of them had a database for the data but it was a small dataset or pretty obscure so in my opinion it would be better for them to post it on DAAC or elsewhere. Anyways...I could go on about that, but won't!

I'd be very interested to know how the workshop goes at ESA.

Thanks again for the info and have a good weekend.

Sincerely, Sarah Walker Judson