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*In general, I do not purify or concentration my ligation products.  In the one instance where I did, I simply got 40 instead of 3 negative colonies, suggesting that I was concentrating a rare background product.  However, it seems that other people in the lab have had good results using purified and/or concentrated ligation products. --YC
*In general, I do not purify or concentration my ligation products.  In the one instance where I did, I simply got 40 instead of 3 negative colonies, suggesting that I was concentrating a rare background product.  However, it seems that other people in the lab have had good results using purified and/or concentrated ligation products. --YC
**Concentration will concentrate everything - you get more positives and more negatives. So if your problem is too few colonies this will help. If the problem is a high background, you're better off redoing the digest/CIP/extraction process. -Josh
**Concentration will concentrate everything - you get more positives and more negatives. So if your problem is too few colonies this will help. If the problem is a high background, you're better off redoing the digest/CIP/extraction process. -Josh
**My point is that, in my experience, the cloning will either work or not work, and concentrating the ligation has not made a deference. I have observed 2 main types of cloning failure.  The first is that I get no colonies at all, and the effect of concentrating the ligation product in this situation was described above.  The second was that there is a high background of negative colonies, such that one would have to screen through many colonies to find a positive.  In this case, it also wouldn't help to concentrate the ligation, since obviously you would concentrate both positive and negative colonies without improving the ratio between the two.  This, of course, is just my personal experience. --YC
**My point is that, in my experience, the cloning will either work or not work, and concentrating the ligation has not made a deference. --YC
*If you do wish to concentrate the ligation, make sure you either do phenol-chloroform extraction or use a column and not just concentrate with the speed vac.
*If you do wish to concentrate the ligation, make sure you either do phenol-chloroform extraction or use a column and not just concentrate with the speed vac.
*If you're not cleaning up the ligation, it should be heat inactivated (65C for 10-20 minutes) before transformation. -Josh
*If you're not cleaning up the ligation, it should be heat inactivated (65C for 10-20 minutes) before transformation<cite>ymer</cite>. -Josh
**I actually never heat inactivate the ligation before transformation, but this is not a bad idea if you plan to keep the ligation product for potential repeats in transformation. --YC
**I actually never heat inactivate the ligation before transformation, but this is not a bad idea if you plan to keep the ligation product for potential repeats in transformation. --YC
==References==
<biblio>
#ymer pmid=1762931
</biblio>

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General setup

  • 250-500 ng vector
  • 5-20x (in molar ratios) of insert--higher insert:vector ratio for shorter inserts
  • 2 ul T4 DNA ligase buffer
  • 1 ul DNA ligase
    • I have good luck using less ligase (say, 0.25uL per reaction). -Josh
  • Water to 20 ul total volume
    • For routine cloning, I also run ligations smaller than 20uL. I've never understood the reason to run a 20uL ligation, transform 1uL, and throw away the rest. 10uL is fine, and you use half as much ligase. You can go to 5uL if you want to push it. -Josh

Reaction time

  • According to NEB
    • At room temperature, use 1 ul of ligase in 20 ul rxn; 10 min for sticky end and 2 hrs for blunt end
    • At 16C, 1 U of enzyme can ligate 50% of HindIII fragments (at 300 ng/ul) in a 20 ul rxn in 30 min
  • Room temp, >10 min. I'm not aware of any reason that running longer is bad. I tend to run my ligations as long as is easily practical. -Josh
  • Room temp, 3 hrs (YC). I have tried transformation after a 20-min ligation and know that it yields fewer colonies than a 3-hr ligation. However, if you generally get more than enough colonies to screen, then the shorter ligation time may be sufficient.
  • 16C, overnight (YC). I tried this as a last resort after multiple failures in cloning three constructs. One of the three constructs worked (and I'm not sure it's entirely due to the different ligation protocol), while the other two constructs showed no significant improvement (one went from no colony to 2 colonies; the other from 2 to 3 colonies).
    • I think overnight ligations are useful when you're doing tricky cloning. Blunt end, for example, or when you're cloning a library (and need lots of colonies). -Josh

Concentration and purification after ligation

  • In general, I do not purify or concentration my ligation products. In the one instance where I did, I simply got 40 instead of 3 negative colonies, suggesting that I was concentrating a rare background product. However, it seems that other people in the lab have had good results using purified and/or concentrated ligation products. --YC
    • Concentration will concentrate everything - you get more positives and more negatives. So if your problem is too few colonies this will help. If the problem is a high background, you're better off redoing the digest/CIP/extraction process. -Josh
    • My point is that, in my experience, the cloning will either work or not work, and concentrating the ligation has not made a deference. --YC
  • If you do wish to concentrate the ligation, make sure you either do phenol-chloroform extraction or use a column and not just concentrate with the speed vac.
  • If you're not cleaning up the ligation, it should be heat inactivated (65C for 10-20 minutes) before transformation[1]. -Josh
    • I actually never heat inactivate the ligation before transformation, but this is not a bad idea if you plan to keep the ligation product for potential repeats in transformation. --YC

References

  1. Ymer S. Heat inactivation of DNA ligase prior to electroporation increases transformation efficiency. Nucleic Acids Res. 1991 Dec 25;19(24):6960. DOI:10.1093/nar/19.24.6960 | PubMed ID:1762931 | HubMed [ymer]