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From: JonathanCline <jncline@gmail.com>
From: JonathanCline <jncline@gmail.com>
To: DIYbio  
To: DIYbio  


I would like to propose a real example regarding diy bio.
I would like to propose a real example regarding diy bio.


Currently in asia, as reported on HK news, there are 10,000 babies in
Currently in asia, as reported on HK news, there are
the hospital after being
10,000 babies in the hospital after being poisoned with
poisoned with melamine from purposely-tainted milk products.  Note
melamine from purposely-tainted milk products.  Note that
that melamine has now
melamine has now been found in M&M's, in oreo cookies, in
been found in M&M's, in oreo cookies, in cereal..  I dunno about you
cereal..  I dunno about you guys, I like M&Ms.
guys, I like M&Ms.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melamine#2008_Chinese_milk_scandal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melamine#2008_Chinese_milk_scandal
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal


It occurred to me this week as I was attempting to buy some cereal
It occurred to me this week as I was attempting to buy
over here in asia.. and
some cereal over here in asia.. and looking at the
looking at the palettes of quaker oats "on discount", I'm not too
palettes of quaker oats "on discount", I'm not too
encouraged that all the
encouraged that all the contaminated food is being, or
contaminated food is being, or will be, actually disposed of.
will be, actually disposed of.


I would like a melamine detector so I could test the food in my fridge
I would like a melamine detector so I could test the food
and the food from the
in my fridge and the food from the store.  Some of the
store.  Some of the contaminated food will get "curiously" re-directed
contaminated food will get "curiously" re-directed to
to resellers as discount
resellers as discount stock and may be re-sold for years
stock and may be re-sold for years through local channels - the locals
through local channels - the locals need this detector
need this detector too.
too.


So sure would be nice to have a cheap melamine detector. I'm not
So sure would be nice to have a cheap melamine detector.
talking about something fancy,
I'm not talking about something fancy, like taking a
like taking a sample of food to send to a lab which reports the result
sample of food to send to a lab which reports the result
in 1 week or 1 day.  I'm
in 1 week or 1 day.  I'm talking about something I can
talking about something I can stir up in the kitchen for years to come
stir up in the kitchen for years to come that turns red
that turns red within
within an hour for "don't eat this."
an hour for "don't eat this."


This should be a simple DIYBIO project, right?
This should be a simple DIYBIO project, right?


I am encouraged by open source biology because open source has been
I am encouraged by open source biology because open source
shown to have the
has been shown to have the quickest response time for
quickest response time for problems found in the field.  Simple
problems found in the field.  Simple example:  When
example:  When someone found
someone found a major flaw in Intel Pentium chips, the
a major flaw in Intel Pentium chips, the Illegal Instruction errata,
Illegal Instruction errata, and Intel admitted it was a
and Intel admitted it was a
valid problem, it took the Linux community something less
valid problem, it took the Linux community something less than a week
than a week (if memory serves -- something like 3 days?)
(if memory serves --
to come up with a runtime patch which scanned all
something like 3 days?) to come up with a runtime patch which scanned
applications at runtime for the security risk.  This was a
all applications at
very high tech solution to a very threatening computer
runtime for the security risk.  This was a very high tech solution to
security problem which "endangered" everyone who had an
a very threatening computer
Intel computer.  Whereas, Microsoft took months to release
security problem which "endangered" everyone who had an Intel
a patch, and SUN microsystems I believe took even longer
computer.  Whereas, Microsoft
to patch their version of unix.  Open source took days,
took months to release a patch, and SUN microsystems I believe took
and commercial entities took months (not even willing to
even longer to patch
admit there was a problem).
their version of unix.  Open source took days, and commercial entities
took months (not even
willing to admit there was a problem).


Keeping all this in mind, how would I build melamine detecting
Keeping all this in mind, how would I build melamine
"yogurt" in my garage right
detecting "yogurt" in my garage right now? I mean a
now?
solution which is cheap (less than $0.50 per use), stand-
I mean a solution which is cheap (less than $0.50 per use), stand-
alone, and usable by an 8 year old, so that the non-bio
alone, and usable
savvy masses can test their own oreo cookies before
by an 8 year old, so that the non-bio savvy masses can test their own
dunking them into soy milk,  Shouldn't open source bio
oreo cookies before
heads be able to get a working device validated in less
dunking them into soy milk,  Shouldn't open source bio heads be able
than 3 months?  (BTW, if precursors etc to melamine needs
to get a working device
detecting, then the device should do that as well.)
validated in less than 3 months?  (BTW, if precursors etc to melamine
needs detecting, then
the device should do that as well.)




A simple problem.  At least from the applications angle.
A simple problem.  At least from the applications angle.
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Project Proposal

Use of synthetic biology has been proposed by OpenWetWare and related individuals/labs/groups as a means for non-scientists to use biotechnology. I propose creation of a simple and much needed chemical detector as one possible method of testing the idea of "DIY Bio". This theoretical "Melaminometer" detector registers presence of both melamine and/or cyanuric acid; original proposal here:

Original Proposal

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	actually 'doing bio'
Date: 	Thu, 9 Oct 2008 06:26:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: 	JonathanCline <jncline@gmail.com>
To: 	DIYbio 



I would like to propose a real example regarding diy bio.

Currently in asia, as reported on HK news, there are
10,000 babies in the hospital after being poisoned with
melamine from purposely-tainted milk products.  Note that
melamine has now been found in M&M's, in oreo cookies, in
cereal..  I dunno about you guys, I like M&Ms.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melamine#2008_Chinese_milk_scandal

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal

It occurred to me this week as I was attempting to buy
some cereal over here in asia.. and looking at the
palettes of quaker oats "on discount", I'm not too
encouraged that all the contaminated food is being, or
will be, actually disposed of.

I would like a melamine detector so I could test the food
in my fridge and the food from the store.  Some of the
contaminated food will get "curiously" re-directed to
resellers as discount stock and may be re-sold for years
through local channels - the locals need this detector
too.

So sure would be nice to have a cheap melamine detector.
I'm not talking about something fancy, like taking a
sample of food to send to a lab which reports the result
in 1 week or 1 day.  I'm talking about something I can
stir up in the kitchen for years to come that turns red
within an hour for "don't eat this."

This should be a simple DIYBIO project, right?

I am encouraged by open source biology because open source
has been shown to have the quickest response time for
problems found in the field.  Simple example:  When
someone found a major flaw in Intel Pentium chips, the
Illegal Instruction errata, and Intel admitted it was a
valid problem, it took the Linux community something less
than a week (if memory serves -- something like 3 days?)
to come up with a runtime patch which scanned all
applications at runtime for the security risk.  This was a
very high tech solution to a very threatening computer
security problem which "endangered" everyone who had an
Intel computer.  Whereas, Microsoft took months to release
a patch, and SUN microsystems I believe took even longer
to patch their version of unix.  Open source took days,
and commercial entities took months (not even willing to
admit there was a problem).

Keeping all this in mind, how would I build melamine
detecting "yogurt" in my garage right now? I mean a
solution which is cheap (less than $0.50 per use), stand-
alone, and usable by an 8 year old, so that the non-bio
savvy masses can test their own oreo cookies before
dunking them into soy milk,  Shouldn't open source bio
heads be able to get a working device validated in less
than 3 months?  (BTW, if precursors etc to melamine needs
detecting, then the device should do that as well.)


A simple problem.  At least from the applications angle.